>> 354,000 afghan national army people roughly, but the problem are the taliban, the taliban are pashtun. do you know what percent of that afghan national army are pashtun? 2%. >> that's right. >> this army, they're basically seen as northern invaders from other tribes. they've not been treated as a servant class. they make up the army. they're not going to be allowed in the helmand provinces. >> we're going to have a divided country like lebanon. >> you're absolutely right. >> the american people will be watching it on television and reading in the newspaper about beheadings and awful treatment of women in those areas controlled by the pashtuns, right? >> yes, they will, but the bigger question is what contingency of u.s. troops can stop that? >> if we're not staying in there big time, 100,000 troops basically, we might as well get out because we can't control the future of the country. >> and convert it to the operation that the president talked about where we're going security and training -- >> it raises the old question when you go in 11, 12 years ago you knew you had to leave. are